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This guide will detail the best dps spec for your ferocity hunter pet for MM, SV, and BM hunters at level 85 in Cataclysm. We’re assuming a raid environment where you need the best possible dps from your hunter pet. Which pet you bring to the raid will depend on what pet buff your raid needs, but if it’s ferocity, this is the spec you’ll want to use.
We’ll be covering beast mastery spec here as well, but we’ll be starting with the marksman and survival ferocity pet spec. The poor guys have four fewer pet talents, so the least we can do is let them go first.
MM and SV Ferocity Hunter Pet Spec
When you’re just looking for dps abilities for your ferocity hunter pet, the majority of the options are clear-cut. We only took Dash because we needed three talent points to get to the 2nd tier, and giving our pet the ability to close faster at least has some dps gain potential.
Likewise Bloodthirsty isn’t a dps increase, but was needed to access lower levels. The fact that it heals our ferocity pet a bit makes it nicer than the alternatives. You could just as easily grab another non-dps talent to open up the tree.
The big question with your Cataclysm ferocity pet spec is the choice between Wild Hunt and Shark Attack. The new Wild Hunt is beautifully designed and keeps our pets from capping out on focus. However, the value of this depends a lot on our pet’s focus regen (which, in turn, depends a lot on our crit chance).
For the level 85 MM or SV hunter, it looks like we’re really only getting the best use out of one rank in Wild Hunt, and the 2nd talent point is better spent in Shark Attack. We’ll have to watch this closely to see if it chances as our crit chance increases with higher tiers of raid gear than are currently available.
BM Ferocity Hunter Pet Spec
BM hunters have the luxury of picking up every possible dps talent for their ferocity pets and still having a couple talent points left over. I prefer to put these points into the movement-increasing Boar’s Speed and Charge (Charge also technically boosts damage by a tiny little amount). Combined with Dash your pet should be incredibly speedy at target-switching fights, losing less dps time to travel.
If you have issues with keeping your pet alive despite its Avoidance AoE damage reduction and Cower, you could instead make your way down to Heart of the Phoenix for the instant pet rez.
There is some debate about the value of Heart of the Phoenix: one one hand a dead pet does no dps, and on the other hand the odds of your pet dying in a raid if you’re paying the least attention to it is rare. That said, as long as you have the extra talent points — and BM does — why not have the insurance. Even if it’s used super rarely, the dps loss when you have to manually rez your pet is huge. Just be sure you wait until there’s no aoe damage happening before you trigger this, or your pet could die in one tick while you’re waiting for it’s max health to recalculate.

Found something a bit odd… Foxes don’t have access to Charge. At least, mine doesn’t…
Yea foxes n dogs (dunno bout others) do not have Charge. But i also found it a bit odd that you chose 1 point in Bloodthirsty instead of a slight dps increase in Charge seeing as in a raid we should all have growl off, and in PVP it might not be as good as the 1 sec stun in my opinion.
Bloodthirsty does not rely on Growl the way Silverback does in the tenacity tree – it just relies on your pet attacking something.
Charge is technically an absolutely minuscule DPS gain (especially for MM or SV), but that also assumes you are always diligent in assuring you top off your pet’s happiness before each fight. If your pet drops from happy to content during the fight, then the GCD you have to spend casting Mend Pet likely cancels out any gain Charge might have had. (Just a guess, though.)
Because of that, I agree with Frostheim in suggesting Bloodthirsty over Charge for maximum DPS.
That’s strange, because my fox has charge. I’m not sure why they wouldn’t have it available to them.
My fox also has charge.. >.>
I defintely agree that 1 SA and 1 WH is the way to go at the moment with our low crit rate and resulting pet focus regen.
2 WH just uses up way too much focus for what we can currently generate. Using Female Dwarf, I got a simulated 97% WH uptime with 1 SA and 1 WH but only 47% with 2 WH. Of course, the situation is worse in real game play when you are not always taking the ideal amount of shots due to moving, play inefficiencies, stuns, CCing, etc.
I dont’t know if it’s a bug or should be this way, but I noticed that you can skill the tree without bloodthirsty. If you have enough points in complete to go to the third “floor”, you can go to the pet trainer, unteach all and then go the way down, activate bloddthirsty, activate the other skills and then unactivate bloodthirsty. If you klick on learn then, it should work.
Sorry if it’s difficult to understand, I’ve got a huge lack at specific vocabulary in english (coming from Germany).
Please tell me, if it is a bug.
Greetings Kiloee
it seems my pet dose not have enough talent points to fill these specs out..and my pet is lvl 85..can some one explain this problem plz?
well you can have one of two problems. #1 either your SV or MM speced and trying to do the BM Ferocity Hunter Pet Spec or #2 your BM speced and forgot to put a point into Beast Mastery
O, one more thing, see if you accidently put an extra point into something that wasn’t suppose to be maxed out.
Thank you Frost for your great guides, since i found this site it has become my Hunter’s bible. I have a question about this pet guide, will there be an update/changes to ferocity talents now that we have 4.0.6 and improved AoTH?
Thank you kindly.
I’m rather an advocate of Charge, and always have been. The DPS gain on your average tank’n'spank is tiny, true, but a great deal of the Cata fights aren’t so average…
Cho’gall’s Tentacles, for instance. A pet with charge can target a tentacle; the one second immobilize also interrupts the debilitating beam. Not much of a personal DPS gain, unless the tentacle was on you, but a massive help for the raid.
Also, now that happiness is gone, do people really need that tiny amount of pet healing?
This guide could use a good looking over as it mentions happiness and uses bloodthirsty, with happiness gone charge is most likely a better option.
+1 to the Heart of the Phoenix idea – as a BM hunter, I prefer to have Heart of the Phoenix over Boar’s Speed and Charge. I look at it this way – there might be a marginal dps increase with Boar’s Speed/Charge. However, if my pet dies in a battle and I don’t have Heart of the Phoenix, I am looking at a dramatic loss of dps in order to revive my pet.
Sure, it is rare that the pet dies in a raid situation (especially with mend pet up). However, it does still happen with some fights. In those situations, Heart of the Phoenix is invaluable.
Anyone want to help make a list of fights where your pet is likely to die? (Aka, trade out to a Heart of the Phoenix pet for this fight)
How is this reviewed and accurate on 5/10/2011 if it still mentions happiness and still acquires blood thirsty rather than another option?
Ah, when I looked over it and saw the the build was still accurate, I must have missed the two words about happiness.
As the guide says, Bloodthirsty isn’t and was never a dps talent — we have to take a non-dps talent to get farther down in the tree, and Bloodthirsty is my preferred route because of the pet self-heal. But feel free to take any other non-dps talent to open up the tree.
Charge would be a fine option, and is much better than a self heal that more than likely isn’t needed anyway..
With GftT and Sic Em, we do now crit enough for these to be used and not waste the pets’ focus. Charge only affects the first attack, but it’s better than nothing.
tbh growl doesn’t affect groups anymore, tank holds hate pretty damn well now since the latest patches. I’ve had my pet with growl active all the time and its not pulled any agro off the tank.
If i am BM and have ban’thalos as pet… What is the best talent tree for me situation? can i solo TBC raids with this spec/pet and if not should i use my MM spec with spider pet?
As a new hunter to Warcraft I am gathering general information from the various helpful sites that are around. The info above provides a BM pet talent spec for DPS but which of these abilities that are available should i be choosing for my ferocity pet ? It is limited to four spaces but the talent above offers more than that.
Ok so let me start with, I stopped playing mid wrath, came back during the two weeks of events before full release of cata. If I remember correctly, having dash and charge (at least both on auto cast) activated together is a waste, is this still true and if so does that mean I need to keybind/macro yet another pet skill?