Comments on: Frostheim Goggles: How to Top the Meters http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/ A gathering place for WoW hunters who have paid their dues Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:46:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chicalihttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-14644 Chicali Fri, 21 May 2010 22:32:21 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-14644 Thanks, Frostheim! I appreciate the quick response. I have passed this information along to the uninformed hunters regarding your theory as to why casters can lower their GCD. Actually, I also informed them (again) of your website because it is a great resource. Your insight, theorycrafting, and general math lessons have been a big help. We appreciate your work and this site :) Have a great evening! ~Chica Thanks, Frostheim!

I appreciate the quick response. I have passed this information along to the uninformed hunters regarding your theory as to why casters can lower their GCD. Actually, I also informed them (again) of your website because it is a great resource. Your insight, theorycrafting, and general math lessons have been a big help. We appreciate your work and this site :)

Have a great evening!

~Chica

]]> By: Frostheimhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-14639 Frostheim Fri, 21 May 2010 21:26:29 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-14639 Most classes have a GCD of 1.5 seconds (I believe rogues and feral kitties have a 1sec base GCD, but not certain -- don't pay a lot of attention to them). Anyone whose abilities are affected by *spell* haste will have their GCD lowered by their haste, to a minimum of 1 sec. Those classes that are not affected by spell haste are stuck at a 1.5 sec GCD -- this basically just leaves hunters, warriors, and death knights at the 1.5 sec. As for *why* they decided to do this, I cannot say, but I suspect it's this: Haste did not always affect the GCD, and when it was changed was back when we had a "spell haste" stat. So when all haste became the same thing, they kept the distinction of whether haste would affect the GCD based on the old spell haste vs haste mentality. Really, it's just a leftover from a couple of outdated mechanics, honestly. Right now the hunter class is balanced around a 1.5 sec GCD, so they can't change it without upsetting that balance. However in Cataclysm everything is being reworked and rebalanced anyway, so it's entirely possible that we'll see haste affect everyone's GCD the same way (which would make life a lot simpler). Most classes have a GCD of 1.5 seconds (I believe rogues and feral kitties have a 1sec base GCD, but not certain — don’t pay a lot of attention to them). Anyone whose abilities are affected by *spell* haste will have their GCD lowered by their haste, to a minimum of 1 sec. Those classes that are not affected by spell haste are stuck at a 1.5 sec GCD — this basically just leaves hunters, warriors, and death knights at the 1.5 sec.

As for *why* they decided to do this, I cannot say, but I suspect it’s this: Haste did not always affect the GCD, and when it was changed was back when we had a “spell haste” stat. So when all haste became the same thing, they kept the distinction of whether haste would affect the GCD based on the old spell haste vs haste mentality. Really, it’s just a leftover from a couple of outdated mechanics, honestly.

Right now the hunter class is balanced around a 1.5 sec GCD, so they can’t change it without upsetting that balance. However in Cataclysm everything is being reworked and rebalanced anyway, so it’s entirely possible that we’ll see haste affect everyone’s GCD the same way (which would make life a lot simpler).

]]> By: Chicalihttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-14637 Chicali Fri, 21 May 2010 20:59:05 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-14637 hey Frostheim :) I'm an Alliance hunter on Windrunner that began playing back in the vanilla WoW days and I've been lurking on your site for many years. I trust your theories since you have huge data sets (which is a total turn-on for chicks, btw) and generally try to avoid the "other" sites when I am in need of definitive information. A huge debate raged today within my guild regarding hunter global CDs. Everyone (but me) insisted haste reduced the global CD. Having already read everything you had to say about haste and the global CD, I knew this was not true. However, I was unable to tell them WHY. Feeling like I was in desperate need of an int buff finally pushed me to write to you with this question. Why is it that hunters are the only class that cannot reduce their global CD with haste? What was Blizzard's reasoning in doing this? Did it have something to do with the days of single key macro spams? Any light you can shed on this subject would be appreciated and even though I would love to tell them I figured it out all by myself, I will give you proper credit :) Thanks in advance! Chicali hey Frostheim :)

I’m an Alliance hunter on Windrunner that began playing back in the vanilla WoW days and I’ve been lurking on your site for many years. I trust your theories since you have huge data sets (which is a total turn-on for chicks, btw) and generally try to avoid the “other” sites when I am in need of definitive information.

A huge debate raged today within my guild regarding hunter global CDs. Everyone (but me) insisted haste reduced the global CD. Having already read everything you had to say about haste and the global CD, I knew this was not true. However, I was unable to tell them WHY. Feeling like I was in desperate need of an int buff finally pushed me to write to you with this question.

Why is it that hunters are the only class that cannot reduce their global CD with haste? What was Blizzard’s reasoning in doing this? Did it have something to do with the days of single key macro spams?

Any light you can shed on this subject would be appreciated and even though I would love to tell them I figured it out all by myself, I will give you proper credit :)

Thanks in advance!

Chicali

]]> By: Eidelweisshttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-14550 Eidelweiss Tue, 18 May 2010 17:45:05 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-14550 Terrific! There's so much going on there, you can't look at it just once :) Terrific! There’s so much going on there, you can’t look at it just once :)

]]> By: Oylesshttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-13998 Oyless Wed, 05 May 2010 14:42:51 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-13998 Ahh, now it is! Ahh, now it is!

]]> By: Oylesshttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-13912 Oyless Tue, 04 May 2010 17:37:17 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-13912 Why isn't this one listed under "Frostheim Goggles" section? Why isn’t this one listed under “Frostheim Goggles” section?

]]> By: Factoidhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-12485 Factoid Wed, 31 Mar 2010 04:10:04 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-12485 Always a gem finding these posts. Dwarven trickery is a thing to be reckoned. Always a gem finding these posts. Dwarven trickery is a thing to be reckoned.

]]> By: Aldronghttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-10752 Aldrong Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:31:52 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-10752 lol but makes u think, what if the rouge wasnt afk XO lol but makes u think, what if the rouge wasnt afk XO

]]> By: Fradinhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-10719 Fradin Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:11:41 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-10719 Thats when a Fiend Death or MD does come in handy !, had a good laugh over this one lmao. Thats when a Fiend Death or MD does come in handy !, had a good laugh over this one lmao.

]]> By: Tlordhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/02/frostheim-goggles-how-to-top-the-meters/#comment-10717 Tlord Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:29:21 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3889#comment-10717 Greater Than: Night Elf: The Sleak, Precise, and Cunning Stalker.. Hunting Is In Their Blood Drawf: The Loud, Drunk, and Clumsy Gun-Weilder.. Only Thing They Hunt Down Is Their Next Ale Night Elf > Dwarf Greater Than:

Night Elf: The Sleak, Precise, and Cunning Stalker.. Hunting Is In Their Blood

Drawf: The Loud, Drunk, and Clumsy Gun-Weilder.. Only Thing They Hunt Down Is Their Next Ale

Night Elf > Dwarf

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