Comments on: Hunting Party Podcast Episode 20 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/ A gathering place for WoW hunters who have paid their dues Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:46:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tlordhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10438 Tlord Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:38:34 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10438 Underoath.. Enjoy :D , I know I do. Underoath..

Enjoy :D , I know I do.

]]> By: Underøathhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10437 Underøath Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:12:45 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10437 Thank you for the info Tlord. I'm just getting into listening to the podcasts, and I haven't had a chance to listen to them all yet. Thank you for the info Tlord. I’m just getting into listening to the podcasts, and I haven’t had a chance to listen to them all yet.

]]> By: Tlordhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10436 Tlord Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:07:10 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10436 Underoath.. They've answered that in posts and on one of the previous podcasts...in short, No. Underoath..

They’ve answered that in posts and on one of the previous podcasts…in short, No.

]]> By: Underøathhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10434 Underøath Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:24:44 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10434 Loved the podcast. . . especially the theme music! Any possibility the track is available for download? Loved the podcast. . . especially the theme music! Any possibility the track is available for download?

]]> By: togaman101http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10428 togaman101 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:43:07 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10428 Sorry the above dps is against Festergut not Rotface... Sorry the above dps is against Festergut not Rotface…

]]> By: togaman101http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10427 togaman101 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:27:45 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10427 I can say that I have successfully been rolling with MM since I was a level 10 (didn't know any better then...) and have been out-dpsing most hunters I come around in SV. And I've heard the arguments for SV against Suarfang b/c of the burst damage from Lock'n'Load proc-ing but being able to pop Saurfang with a chimera shot once or twice during the blood beast is a huge dps boost and a big help to the raid (fyi: 10-man is where I spend most of my time). It also helps that we roll with a boomkin that entangles one of the beasts; then we have a melee dps taunt the 1st beast back towards the melee if one of us in going to get chomped on. Generaly we one-shot him using this strat and it allows the person the wanted a tanking spec and be able to stay MM and not be concerned with losing the burst damage. Of course if you have plenty of dinero like the uncommoningly handsome Frostheim then you can just continue to re-spec twice a week. To put it in perspective I do about 6.4k against Rotface in MM. Our SV hunter does about 5.8k in better gear. Make the switch! It's worth it :) And here is my armory link if anyone wanted to see what I did (disclaimer copied from WHU) http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Steamwheedle+Cartel&cn=Alurien I can say that I have successfully been rolling with MM since I was a level 10 (didn’t know any better then…) and have been out-dpsing most hunters I come around in SV. And I’ve heard the arguments for SV against Suarfang b/c of the burst damage from Lock’n'Load proc-ing but being able to pop Saurfang with a chimera shot once or twice during the blood beast is a huge dps boost and a big help to the raid (fyi: 10-man is where I spend most of my time). It also helps that we roll with a boomkin that entangles one of the beasts; then we have a melee dps taunt the 1st beast back towards the melee if one of us in going to get chomped on. Generaly we one-shot him using this strat and it allows the person the wanted a tanking spec and be able to stay MM and not be concerned with losing the burst damage. Of course if you have plenty of dinero like the uncommoningly handsome Frostheim then you can just continue to re-spec twice a week.
To put it in perspective I do about 6.4k against Rotface in MM. Our SV hunter does about 5.8k in better gear. Make the switch! It’s worth it :) And here is my armory link if anyone wanted to see what I did (disclaimer copied from WHU) http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Steamwheedle+Cartel&cn=Alurien

]]> By: Absolhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10421 Absol Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:47:16 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10421 Eyes of the beast has one use in ICC. During the initial trash we usually prefer not to have to deal with both large skeletons as well as the spider/skeleton combos. So if we don't have someone with Eye of Kilrogg, we send in a pet to trip the traps and get those hulking skeletons moving. Eyes of the beast has one use in ICC. During the initial trash we usually prefer not to have to deal with both large skeletons as well as the spider/skeleton combos. So if we don’t have someone with Eye of Kilrogg, we send in a pet to trip the traps and get those hulking skeletons moving.

]]> By: Oylesshttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10419 Oyless Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:45:54 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10419 After listening to your story of Hrist I would love to see exactly how fast and how much he is able to pull and hold aggro on in the heroics. My guild has one tank who is still gearing up for ICC however last night after hearing your story I was pushing him to take more and more adds. I know that our healer can handle it and our DPS knows how to watch and manage aggro. I was surprised that he was able to take as much as he did, I think he was too, even with only being geared for TotC 10. We finally ended at Nexus, I asked to pull everything up to the Mage. He did it, man that was an interesting time! After listening to your story of Hrist I would love to see exactly how fast and how much he is able to pull and hold aggro on in the heroics. My guild has one tank who is still gearing up for ICC however last night after hearing your story I was pushing him to take more and more adds. I know that our healer can handle it and our DPS knows how to watch and manage aggro. I was surprised that he was able to take as much as he did, I think he was too, even with only being geared for TotC 10. We finally ended at Nexus, I asked to pull everything up to the Mage. He did it, man that was an interesting time!

]]> By: Zaorhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10397 Zaor Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:27:36 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10397 Frost, You mentioned in the podcast that the spreadsheet models only average out the procs during your discussion on 4PCT10 vs. 2PCT9. You said specifically that it doesn't do a good job modeling the fact that you manually maintain the 15% damage refresher on Chimera Shot. But in actuality, femaledwarf.com (online DPS analyzer) has the provision where it assumes you refresh SpS during an Exploit Weakness 2PC T10 proc. Here's the notation: Warning: The dps calculated below assumes that you are refreshing your serpent sting when the 2pc T10 bonus procs and then using chimera to maintain it for the rest of the fight to preserve the damage bonus. To disable this behavior, check the "Don't Emulate Known Bugs" option in the settings. Just wanted to note this for consistency - and it opens up further discussion. Because if it IS being modeled correctly on femaledawrf.com, I'm still seeing significant upgrades by going to 4PCT10 over 2PCT9 but ONLY with 264 sanctified T10 pieces. So I would still recommend spending your badges on the helm, shoulders, chest and gloves in order to achieve Sanctified T10 asap. Frost,

You mentioned in the podcast that the spreadsheet models only average out the procs during your discussion on 4PCT10 vs. 2PCT9. You said specifically that it doesn’t do a good job modeling the fact that you manually maintain the 15% damage refresher on Chimera Shot.

But in actuality, femaledwarf.com (online DPS analyzer) has the provision where it assumes you refresh SpS during an Exploit Weakness 2PC T10 proc.

Here’s the notation:
Warning: The dps calculated below assumes that you are refreshing your serpent sting when the 2pc T10 bonus procs and then using chimera to maintain it for the rest of the fight to preserve the damage bonus. To disable this behavior, check the “Don’t Emulate Known Bugs” option in the settings.

Just wanted to note this for consistency – and it opens up further discussion. Because if it IS being modeled correctly on femaledawrf.com, I’m still seeing significant upgrades by going to 4PCT10 over 2PCT9 but ONLY with 264 sanctified T10 pieces. So I would still recommend spending your badges on the helm, shoulders, chest and gloves in order to achieve Sanctified T10 asap.

]]> By: Tlordhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2010/01/hunting-party-podcast-episode-20/#comment-10388 Tlord Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:45:12 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=3816#comment-10388 2t10 vs. 2t9: I've been stock piling my emblems and after last nights 10m raid ( 6/9 bosses down :) ) I was over 120frost. I took heavy consideration of the podcasts information and even listened to it twice as I usually do incase i have missed something as I listen to it while in-game. That being said after sitting on so many frost emblems I finally snaped and bout my shoulders and gloves ( already have purchase t10 chest and vendor belt ). The question/statement I will make is what does 2T9vs2T10 look like seeing as I have now decided I'm going all the way with T10. P.S. FROST! We had this debate about SV vs. MM on saurfang and it seems you have switched your tone about SV now ;-) (ref: BM vs MM vs SV post) 2t10 vs. 2t9:

I’ve been stock piling my emblems and after last nights 10m raid ( 6/9 bosses down :) ) I was over 120frost. I took heavy consideration of the podcasts information and even listened to it twice as I usually do incase i have missed something as I listen to it while in-game. That being said after sitting on so many frost emblems I finally snaped and bout my shoulders and gloves ( already have purchase t10 chest and vendor belt ). The question/statement I will make is what does 2T9vs2T10 look like seeing as I have now decided I’m going all the way with T10.

P.S. FROST! We had this debate about SV vs. MM on saurfang and it seems you have switched your tone about SV now ;-) (ref: BM vs MM vs SV post)

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