Boosting Spirit Beasts / Nerfing Wolves
The spirit beasts are not the real issue from our perspective. We this spirit beasts are doing fine and we don’t want them to be the only choice for BM hunters since speccing BM should give a player more choices for pets (ideally) and not less.The problem mainly lies with the wolf just being overpowered. We did consider nerfing them for patch 3.3 but decided that the nerf to pretty much all hunter PvE dps was not worth the benefit of providing more options for pets. Keep in mind though that we have and will continue to make unpopular or even controversial nerfs if we feel they are a benefit for the game.
We have two new blue posts about BM here. The first is just talking about spirit beasts and wolves. Yes, they agree, wolves are a bit overpowered, but alas hunters are already a bit behind other pure dps classes and they don’t want to just nerf hunters. In other words, expect wolves to remain on top until they do some more jiggering so that dropping the wolf won’t hurt hunter dps.
Honestly, I’m not sure why they could just pick another couple of ferocity pets and boost their special attacks so they’re on par with the wolf’s benefit, but there’s probably a bigger picture thing involved there that we’re not seeing.
The greater pain for BM comes from the following:
Beast Mastery
It may not be great for raiding but is still good for leveling while both Marks and Surv are competitive for raiding. I wouldn’t expect any big changes for now.
I have to say (and I know this isn’t terribly popular) but I agree with them. BM is phenomenal for leveling and soloing more difficult content. It’s a massively popular spec and the most common off-spec for hunters. It’s not like BM isn’t getting played. And I honestly don’t mind the idea of having one spec that is leaps and bounds ahead for solo content but isn’t on the top rung for raiding. After all, how fair is it to have a spec that’s best at both.
My Question for BM Hunters
So here’s my question for BM hunters, including those BM hunters who reluctantly left the fold for raid damage, but wish they could return:
What if BM was changed so that your pet’s weren’t so tough? They were just as squishy (in terms of health and armor) as any other spec’s hunter pet. And then what if all those damage boosts that your pet got also reduced the threat that it caused, so that within a couple of shots you’d be likely to pull aggro from your pet – basically instantly.
But, your total dps was competitive with SV and MM in a raid environment. You still have your pet management, you still have the easiest shot rotation by far. Would that be a change that you’d like?
I always hated having a wolf for dps on my hunter. I’ve always wanted something interesting like a ravager or a scorpid. But Dps is DPs as they say. I also agree, BM is fine how it is.
I am a raiding MM hunter with a BM off spec for soloing. To me, what you have suggested above will make BM lose its identity and uniqueness. If I were full time BM and raiding, I would like to see 1) pet abilities buffed or stats boosted so that their DPS is materially increased, 2) a buff to improved mend pet so that BM hunters can rez their pets relatively quickly during a raid (say in 5 seconds) to not suffer a crippling DPS loss when their pets die.
as a hunter dual specced in BM (which I really only use if I want to show off my spirit beast) and SURV, I think things are fine now. All three buillds don’t need to be raid viable. Two is enough and yes, BM is the best way to level. BM is also fine for soloing, grinding and PVP…it doesn’t need to be a fantastic raid build. That’s what dual spec is for.
I actually find I do more DPS as BM in Heroics than in my SV Raid Build. And I don’t even have a Spirit Beast, since I haven’t been able to find one in the open world to tame. I still use my Cat.
I raid as SV more for the Replenishment buff for my 10 man.
There have been times that being able to pull out a beefier pet made the difference in a group that had either an under-performing tank or healer.
The fact that BM is so pet-centric is what sets BMs apart. For where we are inside and outside of raids, everything balances. When I needed to up DPS (which, with my reaction times, was often), I switched to a secondary spec (MM). The addition of the secondary specs to the game pretty well mitigates the bulk of the play issues experienced by us BMs.
Just as BMs should be a bit behind the combined pet+player damage we see with other specs, the single best pet for a specific role should be an exotic BM-only pet (much like the devilsaurs were [are?] for single-target DPS). While there should be a few tied for second-best available to all hunters with some variation brought by pet family, not just its tenacity/cunning/ferocity talent tree, it should be a noticeable gap between the performance of the exotic and common pets. Think of an exotic pet that fills the role of wolf, but with a greater group AP bonus. Would you make room for a BM hunter’s lower overall DPS if their SuperDog brought more to the group as a whole?
I run BM exclusively, and even with a Elite Worm for my tank pet, I still pull aggro from it all the time. I am only moderately geared so I can’t imagine what will happen once I have Tier 10 gear. Now, maybe it is the way my talents are laid out, or maybe I am just lucky with procs, I don’t know.
I would like to see all the Elite pets get a buff that makes them mean something, not just the spirit beasts but the devilsaurs, worms, chimeras etc. If you want the extra damage/skills get the elite pets. If it is a concern that they would be overpowered for levelling, make it so you can only tame them at 80. You can’t get elites until you are level 60 anyway, so why not just extend that…
That BM isn’t top-spec for raiding I never found an issue. In the history of wow, there was always at least one spec which was less usefullf ro raiding, Today it is BM, but it has been SV and MM as well some times in the past. I consider this a non-issue.
The wolf being overpowered I I also find a non-issue. That the wolf is a favourite raiding pet is obvious, but why is that an issue?
Personally I don’t see that much difference with a cat BTW in most fights. Also teh fixed AP buf is going to fade out anyway with every new patch, so the ‘problem’ will go away by doing nothing.
I find it disturbing they see this as a problem. So what is the problem they want to address?
- Does Blizzard want pet diversity in raids? Since pets are 10% of our dps anyway (OK a bit more due to the talents that give us 2% damage and culling of the herd) the choice of pets isn’t going to be that importtant for overal hunter dps. If Blizzard wants to make pets more diverse, start with finally get this pet scaling in place. And if that is not enough, make the secondairy abilities – that is the abilities that are actually different between pets like Cat rake and Wolf Howl – more important compared to the primairy ability (Bite/Claw which are identical).
- That BM’s don’t use a spirit beast? Well, the thing is that a spirit beast actually does less damage. So instead of nerfing it, fix the spirit beast. (Which may if you boost it enough, also make BM more raiding qualified).
So my advise:
- Leave the wolf alone. It is fine.
- Boost spirit beasts
- Spend time on actual stuff that needs fixing and is important (like pet scaling)
I like BM where it is. Most certainly I enjoy knowing that I can send in my warp chaser and not worry that he is jut going to get pummeled (though quel’delar beat the hell out of him
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I think that that is one of the things that sets hunters apart from other classes. Other classes that have a “non raid viable” spec pretty much means that unless that spec is consequently good for PvP, it is left in the cold to die until Blizz picks it up and blows the dust off of it.
With BM, we are not losing anything aside from being able to raid in what may be a preferred spec. I had never played anything but BM and to be honest I became bored with it, as far as trying to deal damage. I actually speced to Surv for PvP and found that my damage output was so significantly better that I started using it to raid and eventually left BM behind, my poor exotics/spirit beasts rotting in the stable for several months before I started becoming truly interested in soloing (thanks to this site).
Oddly enough, I have respecced to MM for raiding recently and still use my “extreme solo” BM build for PvP. While My MM spec can really just demolish other players quickly, it has nowhere near the longevity that my BM spec offers and I truly enjoy having BM for this purpose.
I cast my vote for “leave it as is”. I do tend to agree with the OP in that thread that the Spirit Beast and the Exotics are something that should exemplify the BM hunter. When I see a hunter with one I KNOW that they are BM, I know that they have a pet for a purpose other than “it’s the best raid viable option” and that that hunter might just take pride in their huntery-ness, rather than just being someone who rolled a hunter.
I’d love to see pet scaling, which would up ALL hunter dps, but help BM the most, making it competitive again. But no, I’d slaughter something if BM were a raid spec but pets were squishy. But then again, I don’t like BM for its raiding potential, so my answer is a bit biased. Me tweaking BM would result in our pets pulling insane numbers but would crush overall dps, so BM lovers would likely hate me more than Blizzard.
I was thinking that maybe if BM weren’t so much there for the damage as for something else. Like what if a BM hunter’s pet could apply a druid like farie fire effect or a sunder armor effect or provide another raid buff? Demo locks are currently still used even though they aren’t the highest dps spec for warlocks because of mechanics they can bring to a raid. I honestly have no problem with any pure dps class having 3 viable raid specs because the hybrid’s all have 3 viable raid specs, just for different jobs. My problem is with the DKs and how they have specs that can do multiple jobs, but that just might be part of the whole hero class thing I don’t know. I also wouldn’t mind seeing a situation in a 10 man raid where you either need to have 3 tanks or a BM hunter that can pull out their bear and hold adds while the two tanks have to taunt the boss off each other, allowing for the hunter to still provide some damage on the boss instead of forcing one player to focus completely on adds. So I guess what I’m saying is BM should be that utility spec…kind of like a frost mage maybe? Maybe not the best dps in the world but the answer to fight mechanics. Any ranged class can kite, which is the hunter’s only raid utility right now. I don’t mind just pew pewing the boss but if others have to do certain things on certain fights than hunters should have more responsibility besides shoot things.
Schmevan
P.S. another idea I had would be for the top tier hunter ability to be to control the pet for a time but have the hunter act as the pet and use basic hunter abilities. I haven’t thought it all the way through yet, but what if for 1 minute you could be the cat or devilsaur instead of the hunter but the hunter kept shooting? so during that time the pet and hunter dps numbers were reversed? Just saying that would be kind of cool
“Like what if a BM hunter’s pet could apply a druid like farie fire effect or a sunder armor effect or provide another raid buff?”
They can. You are describing the Wasp and Worm pet abilities. The problem is as long as the buff is replicated by another class, it’s always going to be more efficient to have the other class in the raid and the hunter doing more dps (for 25-mans).
Realistically if you wanted to do this you would need to give BM or BM pets a unique raid buff that wasn’t replicated.
I don’t really use BM anymore, even tho I’m dual specced. But I still love BM, or think I do. I am more interested in seeing it go more utility and less dps.
BM seems like it should have been the am I a druid or am I a hunter spec. Marks and survival can be the raid dps options. Personally, I would like the eyes of the beast idea to become “one with the beast” for BM and actually possess control of your pet. So you body dissapears into the beast. A different justification for druid forms (basically).
It would detract from something that is currently unique to druids. At the same time it would open up tanking, feral dps and some othere wierd stuff to a huge number of people. If that casting serpent (and others) got mapped to elemental shaman, it would allow else to bring totems/bloodlust.
It would totally revive the BM tree for hunters like myself and create a massive headache for the developers (even if it was banned from arena from the get go).
/gorilladinInWaiting
Personally i think BM is about were it should be on the list, its more designed around soloing and pet tanking/extreme soloing which no other spec can really do not even half as good. I realise other classes like a druid have 3 viable raid specs however they dont have a extreme soloing option each class and spec brings it owns set of abilities to the table and depending on the type of player you are will depend on the class , spec etc you will be. I personally think BM is to easy of a spec to be the top dps viable option and should be used for other things instead of raiding.
First of all, I am fully in support of them changing wolves. It’s sad and ridiculous to walk through Dalaran and the only pets used by all 3 specs are wolves. It’s as bad as before when the only “acceptable” pet was a cat.
As to your hypothetical BM changes, I’m not certain what perspective you’re looking at this from, Frost…a raiding BM pet at 80 IS as squishy as a non-BM pet. If a BM raiding hunter is spending any points on improved pet health or armor they’re missing the point of the spec. It’d be like a fury warrior spending points on defensive talents instead of offensive ones.
About pulling aggro from your pet…why would you be pulling aggro from your pet? Is there no tank? You’re talking about in a raid environment – more damage and less threat would be awesome!
Now, if you’re talking about pet tanking/extreme soloing, then of course you would want more pet health, armor, more threat, etc. But it would be no different than BM is now – take health/armor talents, leave out damage talents. However, if they replaced all the improved pet survival talents with extra damage ones, then I think that would be a terrible change, as it would completely change the feel of the spec.
(Also, reduced pet threat is almost a non-issue. Hunters will already pull aggro from their pets if they go full out, even in a soloing spec with a soloing pet. But again, that’s not the point of pet tanking/soloing. It’s a slow, steady burn as a soloing BM hunter, as compared to a fast burn while in a real group. Also, you don’t use your regular raiding/DPS gear, you would use gear that focused more on Stamina than attack power/crit/etc.)
Finally, I know what the spreadsheets and experts say but…I personally still have seen no reason to switch from BM. I’m not a hardcore or even casual raider, but I’ve been on TOC 10 & 25 pug runs frequently where I regularly out-DPS everyone else, including MM and SV hunters. I always assume that these hunters simply don’t know how to play their spec properly…or at least I did until it continued to happen. In 3.3, I’ve grouped with countless randoms from other servers for the new heroics, and once again I outdps them. Since 3.3 came out I’ve been outdpsed on a heroic exactly ONCE, by a mage.
I have however been given “advice” by a druid in a random heroic that “lol y u BM it worst dps” despite putting out more than the tank & other 2 dps combined. :\
I’m not arguing that BM is the best – you can’t argue with calculated figures and numbers. But until I start being pummeled on the damage meters, ie literally being a detriment to my group, I don’t see any reason to change.
Forgot to add – I REALLY hope they make spirit beasts viable raiding DPS pets. It’s the epitome/crowning achievement of being a BM hunter!! Seems a shame to just have him waiting idly in the stables.
It’s just annoying for hunters to have a spec with so much uniqueness (beast mastery) and be wasted as a leveling / soloing spec
I hope they take it a bit more seriously on cataclysm and make a more versatile talent tree with usefull talents.
If Blizz made BM pets squishy and reduced threat in *raids*, I wouldn’t care. However, you wouldn’t be able to do some of the things we can do (soloing elite-wise), which is part of what being a hunter is… so I wouldn’t want Blizz to change BM.
Right now, I still raid and solo as BM because I like it, not because I want to be competitive. I am quite happy to switch to Surv if I think it’s required, though.
hi, ive been visiting this site for a while now, but i never talked on it before.
I would love it if bm was even just a little bit more viable in raid, i would gladly take the pet decreases if it meant i could do higher dps in BM. BM is great for leveling like it is said, but (and this was before i could get dual talent spec) being in survival all the time just killed my ability to play BM, which i love to play.
On a side note: i also play a dk and my brother has a 80 mage and a warrior, we have talked quite a bit on every aspect of the game, pvp, pve, leveling, his characters vs mine, etc. and we both agree that BM dps is under what it should be. there was this instance once where we were going to go pvping together, so i naturally went BM. my bro in season 5 arena gear, and me in my intro level pvp gear (between i-level 175 to 200), my bro out dps’d me as a prot spec. albeit, only by just over 100. now, that may not mean that he could beat me in a duel, but it is hurtful that a tank does more dps than a devoted dps class. give some credit to my brother too, he is a raid tank, and he uses that spec all the time, so he does know it better than i do BM, but still yet, its ridiculous.
I dont think any1 is really asking for a super competitive dps increase to match MM and SV, just bridge the gap a little bit, and make it so that each spec, while better for some aspect of the game, still is at least somewhat viable in raids.
kinda like how (and i only kno this fromj my bro) arcane spec is the best raid spec for mages, with frost being second, while frost is the best pvp spec, and arcane is the worst. even still, warriors have 2 dps specs, and both are viable (and yes, he said 1 is better than the other, but both are easily doable) in raids and pvp.
right now, im a decent raider (pulling 4.2k dps in a raid and 3.1k unbuffed) and im doing fairly well, but i would like to get BM up there so i can actually play the spec again and get familiar with it, especially since recently i tried soloing something that was easy for me leveling up in icecrown (one of the guardians an the wall between icecrown and crystalsong) and i almost failed. miserably. the only reason i lived is because i was in raid gear. i dont even use BM anymore, even though i have dual spec, purely because i have forgotten how to play it as i once did.
I raid MM but have a stable with Loque, Skoll, Gondria, and Krush so I am something of a rare tame junkie. I LOVE the BM spec as (IMO) the defining cornerstone to the hunter class is that we bring a pet to the party. However, rather then make the BM spec a usable raid spec why not push it toward a PvP heavy option for arena and battleground lovers.
I look at classes like druid and pally and envy their dual spec options as they TRULY can play tank, heal, or dps whereas we hunters get to decide whether we want to dps, dps, or heck….dps!
At the very least when I pop into Wintergrasp and click my equipment manager to don all the (ugly) resiliency gear how cool would it be to also slide into my BM spec that offered a distinct PvP advantage over SV and MM.
Now I have a place to pop my crazy two headed fire breathing hell dog or my moon-fire whispy spirit beast out and show off. I at least think the 1kG I spent to get a dual spec actually offers me an option as a pure dps class.
Oh yeah…MORE STABLE SPOTS BLIZZ!!! LOTS MORE!!
Another way to fix it is to let pets focus more on their role.
Tenacity pets could be altered in such a way that they’d tank just as well for the other two specs, but that the relative pet/hunter damage would shift more to the hunter.
Likewise, ferocity pets could allow a BM to deal as much damage as the other 2 specs, yet be terrible tanks at the same time.
I fully agree with the statement that 1 build shouldn’t be able to do everything the best. I disagree however with the statement that 1 spec shouldn’t be able to do all. As long as they’re equal in power, then why not allow people to choose instead of making the choice for them? Just like people may now choose between MM and Surv for raiding.
However, there is an alternative. Blizzard could expand on the tanking aspect of pets, and somehow turn BM into a tanking spec. I’m sure that most hunters would thrill at officially being able to perform more than 1 role. And by weakening the hunter relatively to the pet, you’d avoid any immunity to damage PvP issues.
K Forst you pulled up a subject that is still tender with me.. I spent a hell of alot of time camping Loquenahank, only to walk him around Dalaran…
I have followed the blue posts and the PTR notes since 3.1 to see if the SB was gettin corrected and no, Blizz did’nt really bother.
I was of the feeling that all exotic pets were meant to out perform the normal ones, simply cause thats the BM top talents and that is the main output of BM dps, now if they corrected the pet damage on exotic pets, we could see BM get competitive in a raiding environment.
I don’t agree with the idea of droppin or pet damage to up ours cause that is a contradiction to the BM spec. I have always played it and I use Sv purely for raiding purposes.To be honest, i miss my pet management, these days I could’nt care less if my wolf was dying, I pay alot less attention to the pet and focus more on my rotations.
Now saying that BM has an easy rotation is true but the aim of BM is not the complicated shots that are meant to be fired, its meant to be about gettin your pet to survive a fight, I would liek to see more manual commands for the pet, more talents like intimmidation and kill command, where we are in charge of the pet and not the bow or gun.
I call for a revamp of BM making the pet more controllable
What it basically comes down to is this:
Is it so bad to have a skill that makes your pet deal X damage to a target, instead of a skill that makes the hunter deal X damage to a target? As long as the total damage is Y in both cases, then I seriously don’t understand why it would be a bad thing.
If you want to ‘bring BM for a buff’ you’d have to move Replenishment to BM or give them Bloodlust. Those are really the most important buffs most raids want.
What BM needs is its own shot like Chim for MM and Explosive for SV. For some reason, they seem to have an issue with that because then Arcane is not used by any spec. There are plenty of skills that ‘come off the bars’ as you level up. I don’t see why Arcane Shot can’t be one of them.
I think what really gets people’s goat is that BM is, in my opinion, the defining spec for hunters in WoW; meaning, it really separates them from the rest and highlights the class’ uniqueness in the game. So when the last expansion reduced that spec to leveling/questing and not endgame use, people got upset and disappointed.
Personally, I miss BM but I’m completely OK with the current state of affairs. After all, we have 2 raid viable specs. Getting back to the crux of the issue though, I think what most people would like is to be raid viable AND have a bit more hunter-uniqueness at the same time. In other words, have a bigger pool of flashy pets to bring into raids, or have pets do more in the raid environment.
Now some people could care less about looks, and argue that they’d be just fine raiding with an “untextured cube” as long as it provided max dps. To me, I would like the aesthetics and more diversity of hunter pets, AND have them contribute high dps. Considering how big this game is, and the capability of Blizz, I think it’s fair to desire both of these things, and GET both of these things.
So taking away BM in raids is fine, we’ll deal. But first, fix pet scaling. Second, BM exotics should get big-time boosts in some way to make that 51-pt talent worthwhile. Third, let us raid with something other than 1 pet option.
/diatribe ended
I ,like many hunters, leveled as BM. I raid in MM. I have no problem with one spec doing more dps in a raid than another. I would have a BIG problem if they made BM pets “squishy” and unable to hold aggro.
When not in a raid (i.e. doing dailies, doing random quest, achievements, helping lowbies on quests or running sub-80 instances, or just hanging out in IF or Dal) I am ALWAYS in BM. I like BM….I feel more like a hunter in BM. I run BGs in BM and have a cat spec’d to tear up Horde clothies.
Pet scaling would be great but I don’t agree with having “super abilities” for rare or exotic pets. I would prefer that the last couple of talent points in the BM be buffed to allow some thing more special….like maybe add a damage boost to Silverback or an armor boost to Wild Hunt.
I was in the Pit of Saron by myself last night with Harry my Turtle. I don’t have any special solo or tank gear …but I was still able to handle the single elites OK…….I got some nice greens for the AH…but the hilt did not drop
I am a casual raiding BM hunter (sorry Frost). That said, I try to do everything within my spec and playing abilities to be all I can be. I am 200-300 dps below the best “raid spec” hunter in the guild, and consistently 1k dps above some hunters that supposedly have a better spec and gear than I do.
I would like to see BM brought up to (or at least closer to) the other specs. It seems like the best way to adjust things solely for BM spec would be through exotic pets, but there are certainly several mechanisms that could work. I understand that it is a complex system (and more complex every year), so making these tweaks is not trivial.
In the end, I am glad that I am in a guild that lets me play my way as long as I play well, and play well with others. We’re not the best, but the atmosphere is nice and laid-back.
I guess I disagree with the basic premis that a leveling/solo spec is acceptable with two raiding. I might feel differently if if we were a pure dps class but, we’re not. I don’t feel it’s quite fair when you have by comparison, Paladins and Warriors that can raid in any spec based on the role they play. I gave up my BM spec for raiding because there was no place for me in riads any more. (Gratz to those who have more tolerant guilds). There were better ways to handle the former OP nature of BM and we could have had three balanced options. I don’t have any suggestions to offer. After the last go around, I didn’t find Bliz to be open to statisically based arguments anyway.
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I love BM because of the diversity of the pets. I just wish they would level the ‘DPS playing field’ so we could play the spec we want. I mean, we’re paying for it, right?
The thing is, apart from the fact that you can solo easier with BM, pets don’t really perform that differently during raids. Just take into account that pets got almost total immunity to AoE damage. When in a decent raid, the tank is taking all the damage, and your pet is just attacking, whatever spec you play. The only difference with BM is that the ratio of the damage between the pet and the hunter is different. But the additional defense that your pet may have is pretty much unused.
It may be more fair to give the other specs some threat redirection or something, like giving Improved Arcane Shot also redirects a percentage of its threat to the pet.
And finally, I’d like to point out that the other specs have skills that improve pets too. That should be taken into account.
BM is not at all what defines hunters. I’m pretty sure hunters are pretty unique all around. How many other classes do physical damage from range? There are other pet classes. That being said, I believe hunters are fine the way they are. Name another class that can viably raid in any of their three specs?
*points to Zakhar’s post a few posts above this one.
It would be fine for me if they turned BM into a tanking spec for raiding instead of dps. Might even make things a bit more interesting.
What we need is (preferably exotic) tenacity pets that can true tank, cunning pets with unique raid-wide abilities, and ferocity pets to make up the dps difference. And more stable slots, I’ll want one of each of those, plus some Westminster pets. And while we’re at it, food buffs on pets…
Food buffs on pets already exist.
I guess making our pets AS squishy as MM and SV pets would be ok as long as the normalize all the pet hit boxes where AOE damage is concerned. I think the Devilsaur for example maintains a huge hit box after it is tamed. Correct me if I am wrong.
I would NOT however like it if our pets were more squishy than SV or MM hunters. BM is ok right now and you CAN raid with it if you spec it right. You will NOT top the meters but you will be competitive and bring along the BM raid buff. To my way of thinking if my BM DPS is close to the MM and SV guys in similar gear and Im bringing an additional buff to the raid then thats worth having me there. Your thoughts Frost?
More often than not another class will bring that same buff. Especially now that mages bring it too.
I don’t BM, but I think what you suggest would take away the identity of the class. I think BMs just need special exotic pets that are extremely challenging to train, but wreck the dps meters or provide amazing buffs to such an extent that people seek them out for raids.
Vyk, in response to a couple of your points:
“BM is not at all what defines hunters” Not for all hunter of course but, there is a definite proportion of them that became hunters because of the whole Hunter-Pet-BM thing, not just for leveling purposes.
“Name another class that can viably raid in any of their three specs?” How about Paladins, DKs and Druids for starters?
As for raiding with BM, at least on my server, there is no fairly successful guild that has raiding BM hunters. I actually checked their rosters and spec recently after this blog post came out. (Was I bored or, what?!?)
I loved leveling as a BM. I spent days and days farming for exotic rare spawn pets to collect and use (Gondria, Numeroc, Skoll, & Arcturus). And now I can’t use them because everyone expects me to be SV or MM for raids–I’ve been kicked out of raids before they even began for being BM spec’d. I’m forced to use, hold your breath, a wolf for raids (at least it had a name “Rema”) C’MON! I suffered to earn my rare pets and I want to use them. I feel jilted. PS. And now all my gear has Ag gems…so if I want to go BM, i need to regem AttPower. Sheesh.