Comments on: Patch 3.2 PTR Notes

By: pawelski

pawelski — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:22:16 +0000

Funny thing about the SV nerf is most well-geared MM hunters spank SV hunters in every raid ( not so much in heroics….or perhaps that is just my own apathy in heroics..)

By: Frostheim

Frostheim — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:09:26 +0000

I’ve tried to talk Hrist into making a tank blog before, to no avail. Clearly the unique insights into tanking and raid leadering of the hate tank would attract a crowd of readers.

Alas, he just doesn’t think he’d write often enough.

By: MrJackdaw

MrJackdaw — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:07:27 +0000

Cheers Hrist! Thanks for the reply – I’ll be sure to look at Tankspot then!

Thanks again, Arust and Frostheim, for this wonderful blog.

By: geranamo

geranamo — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:45:11 +0000

so im thinking after this patch MM will be the only way to go if u wanna stand a chance at topping the dps charts b/c of the nerf to l&L. cause even now i do 3k dps on a target dummy in MM consistantly but only do 3k when L&L procs(2.6k when it doesnt)

By: Hrist

Hrist — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:24:09 +0000

No, Hrist does not do a blog as I simply have too much going on to dedicate any time to making a blog.

Even if I did have the time I doubt I would as Tankspot says anything I could ever say about tanking much more succinctly than I could ever hope to. Plus, they have heavy hitters like Ciderhelm and Xav who post and critique constantly. I am small potatoes compared to them!

By: MrJackdaw

MrJackdaw — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:50:47 +0000

And then wonderfully explained in the next blog post. Superb! This Union just impresses me more and more!

I hesitate to ask but… Does Hrist do a similar one for tanks?

By: MrJackdaw

MrJackdaw — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:37:02 +0000

I really like the sound of the three separate trap groups. It brings a greater level of tactical play to us hunters and, again, restores our CC ability whilst in SV spec. Shame they have reduced the “existence” to 30s – but at least this simplifies things.

Hmm…. still undecided whether I like a lot of this!

Enjoying playing dual-spec BM and SV – and I am also a fan of solo-ing some ridiculous stuff – nothing as impressive as Onyxia though! It looks like some of these changes could benefit me there. Anyone care to explain the details here a little more fully?

By: Armin

Armin — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:21:12 +0000

I’m a bit confused, so perhaps someone can explain it to me. OK, all pets now receive 40% of their master’s resilience. That I get and is indeed PvP oriented.

But they also get 100% of their master’s spell penetration. This is 0 for hunter’s, right? So applies for locks I guess.

But then the hunter stiff: In addition, if a player is at their appropriate (spell) hit chance maximum, their pet will be at the maximum for spell hit chance, hit chance, and expertise. If they are below the maximum, their pet will be proportionately below those maximums.

If I read this correct it means three things:
1) Normal hit already scaled with our hit, but it was rounded down instead of being proportionately below. So now, being just below hit-cap is less worse!
2) spell-hit (which already scaled since 3.1) has a higher cap (446 hit ), than normal hit, and although 3.1 claimed it to scale faster to compensate, it didn’t in reality. But now, if I as a hunter, have my 8% normal hit, my spirit-pet will be at its 17% spell hit cap! If so, this is great for BM and would boost their damage seriously (if they use a spirit beast).
3) pets get a serious expertise boost increasing melee dps.

So overall, this should increase melee dps for ALL hunters and make BM hunters – if I’m reading it right – when using spirit beats being able to at least try and fill the dps gap between their MM/SV brothers.

Unless I’m misreading it, as the notes do sound a bit confusion.

By: dangphat

dangphat — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:16:12 +0000

*while u concentrate on cc
(i will learn to type one day)

By: dangphat

dangphat — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:15:21 +0000

I wouldnt call BM broken, it is just not designed to be top dps in end game raiding. Its uses are still what it has always been. You can level quickly using it, and you can solo some pretty big stuff. BM is also nice for pvp, if you want to let your pet do a lot of the dmg while u concentrate on pvp.

BTW I havent gone BM in raid for a while, anyone had any positive experiences? I reckon the 4set tier 8.5 bonus is a nice boost for BM