I guess another of my problems originates in how easy it was to solo level a hunter, now I have to learn the end game and that is much harder and I dont get positve feed back in the same rate as I did leveling.

Sry about all the QQ i still think it’s a wonderful game and I will keep on enjoying it!

but first I’ll read your guide on threat and aggro

The public calling out of a guildy is reserved for the guy who has died 3/4 times to Void zones on KT, Sarth and eye beams on Kologarn. I just finished whipping our “Team 2″ Ulduar team into shape and I’m SOOOO proud of them! However, its called “whipping” for a reason, lol. Over confidence is a killer and has a good deal to do with the “LOL, at least the boss is dead” win. I personally hate the apparent need for strictness that comes with running succesful and expedient raids.

I believe fun comes from mutual respect, pride in ones achievements and a healthy enjoyment of the content itself. Sure the occasional laugh at someone elses (in-game) expense may occur, but who actually wants to spoil other peoples enjoyment of the game?

1.) Read our guide on threat and aggro: http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/03/threat-and-aggro-dont-wipe-the-raid/

2.) Run as many 5-mans as you can. It’s good practice.

3.) Don’t PUG raids. Even if you do everything right, you have a 50% chance of getting yelled at. What you want is to find a nice entry level guild to join.

I gave Heroic Occulus a go the other day, it went fine until I screwed up and caused a wipe… To no surprise to me I received a heap of insults like “stupid, retard, huntard…” from the group leader. I left the party and hearted back to Dalaran where I received more insulting whispers from the group leader because I left the party.

Say that you are new to this game, you are a casual player who can play a couple of hours three to four days a week, how do you proceed to learn how to perform in Raids if you don’t like to get your head taken off every time you make a mistake?

I read a lot of blogs like this to improve my game but it want help me until I get a chance to try it out, is there any “Driving schools” out there for Raiding? Would gladly pay 100g or more to help with repairs just to get some good “In game advice” and “Raiding practice”.

I am sick and tired of getting insulted, spitted at and kicked out like yesterdays garbage.

(Sry for the long comment, it just hit a nerv…)

Now Hrist may disagree with this. He’s fine with yelling at someone in front of the raid; however, he tends to only do it when they say something that provokes him (such as “lol I keep getting killed by the void zones lol”). But of course he’s the hate tank. And everyone loves him. I’m tellin’ ya, Stockholm Syndrome…

Thanks for the advice!

I’m certainly no expert on diplomacy, but here’s an example, “I noticed you were having a lot of trouble staying out of the green stuff on that fight. Are you watching your cooldowns too much? Maybe you could memorize your hot keys so you don’t have to watch so intently, or maybe you could utilize scrolling combat text so you can keep your eyes on the fight…” etc

My main issue is with seeing people berated in front of the entire raid. Just rubs me the wrong way and I never want to humiliate anyone.

If they are melee, “Just follow the tank and don’t lag behind. Try to use only instant casts”

If they are ranged, “Stay on platform, and when you have to run don’t attack”

Just because they don’t know the fight doesn’t mean they won’t get it when you explain it.

But what do you do if they don’t know it was stupid? How do you give someone gentle advice when they don’t know what they are doing is wrong?

And, by the way, altough those questions sound like I am arguing with you troublewithtribbles I do agree. Just have no idea on how to give gentle advice without annoying the whole group!

Slowly but surely, those plucky little folks whittled her down to nothing. Once she was dead, we all released, ran back in, and picked up our loot. We must have spent close to five minutes lying dead on the ground.

I don’t even know why we ended up wiping (undoubtedly one of the tanks or one of the healers bought the farm), but watching her die after all 10 of us were dead, and still getting credit, was hilarious.

Embarrassing, but hilarious.