It’s a dreary rainy Monday morning and I was up drinking way too much last night. This turned out to be a phenomenally fantastic idea; however, it also makes this morning perfect timing for Myr’s macro update for 3.1. So I now hand this entry over to Myr:
So patch 3.10 is out and while we all moan heartily over how they’ve made vehicle based boss fights and stolen all our DPS, the one thing many of us are excited is the chance to dual spec. Whether it is the chance to grab a PvE + PvP spec, or combine a BM spec for solo play and have a non-pet based spec for the anti-pet fights, the change has meant an added dimension for us – even though we’re a “pure DPS” class (or not a hybrid).
3.10 however brought with it not only the Dual specs – but also fixed a few bugs which has forced us to re-write macros.
Firstly – “Kill Shot” is now correctly on the GCD – so the old “spam” macro which had it in has to remove it or it will be broken and not fire anything:
PRE-3.10 Steady Shot:
/cast [target=pet,combat] Kill Command
/cast Kill Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot
Now becomes:
/cast [target=pet,combat] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot
If you’re BM you need to replicate this macro 4 times swapping the last line for “Multi Shot”, “Arcane Shot”, and “Kill Shot”.
If you’re MM you need to replicate this macro 4 times swapping the last line for “Aimed Shot”, “Arcane Shot”, and “Kill Shot” – you’ll also need a Chimera Shot macro. (Aimed Shot shares a cool downs with Multi – so this replaces the Multi macro)
Also – if you’re MM and you spec’d Silencing Shot you can add that to all the spam macros, since Silencing Shot is not on the GCD (just the way Kill Shot wasn’t):
MM v3.10 Steady Shot Macro:
/cast [target=pet,combat] Kill Command
/cast Silencing Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot
There is some discussion about whether this increases DPS or not given the extra mana requirements so you may or may not want Silencing Shot in there.
If you’re SV you need to replicate the spam macro for “Explosive Shot” similar and a Aimed or Multi shot version depending on whether you spec’d Aimed shot. SV shot cycle is more complex and I’m sure a few extra macros can be used to help there, but I haven’t played with it yet.
So while generating a stupidly large number of macros is possible, with Dual Specs we would dearly love to minimise the number of macros yet have them adjust to our current spec – AND WE CAN!
So – Case study based on Myr – I’ve dual spec’d BM/MM for now, why? … well I’ve been BM since the dawn of time and enjoy it, and by picking up MM I get a significant DPS boost for bosses who don’t like pets without having to swap AP gems for Agi between the specs. SV / MM could both use Agi gems, but BM / SV would expect AP gems for BM & Agi gems for SV – which is expensive and/or requires you to duplicate all your equipments with slots …
What Macros do I need? Spam macros for general shots Multi/Aimed, Arcane, Steady & Kill – and now I need a Chimera Shot macro too.
BM/MM Multi/Aimed Shot Macro (3.10)
/cast [target=pet,combat] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast [spec:1][spec:2,mod] Multi-shot
/cast [spec:2,nomod] Aimed Shot
The new [spec:#] qualifier determines automatically which spec I’m in and decides to cast Multi Shot if I’m in my BM spec (#1) or if I’ve held down modifier key (shift/ctrl/alt). {I could add the Silencing Shot line to this if I wanted to}
BM/MM Serpent Sting / Chimera Shot Macro (3.10)
/cast [spec:2,nomod] Chimera Shot
/cast [spec:1,nomod][spec:2,mod] Serpent Sting
If I’m BM or if I hold down a modifier I cast serpent sting – otherwise I use Chimera (refreshing the existing serpent).
Finally I added the spec qualifier to “blow the cool downs” macro
/cast [spec:1] Bestial Wrath
/use 14
/use 13
/cast Rapid Fire
/cast Steady Shot
So now I’ve re-written all my macros, must be time to go play again and cry about my lost DPS …
Myr.
Too bad 3.1 broke Blue Thunder, eh Myr? Now no one will ever know of it’s awesomeness.
/em pours one out for Blue Thunder
Thanks for the macro help, Myr.
One thing troubled me, tho and that was the part where you said, “SV / MM could both use Agi gems”. I could have sworn that Frost said in his gem article that AP gems are better for BM and MM and SV needs Agility.
Could someone clarify? Thanks!
wow, i was not aware of the spec modifier. im gonna have to play with this
so, using your example, if i wanted modifer alt for spec 2 SS, my macro would look like this?
/cast [spec:2,nomod] Chimera Shot
/cast [spec:1,nomod][spec:2,modifier:alt] Serpent Sting
im not sure how this new [spec] parameter changes stuff, and i assume you left it blank because different folk use different modifier keys
Since I go SV can I modify macro to go like this…
/cast [spec:2,nomod] Black Arrow
/cast [spec:1,nomod][spec:2,mod] Serpent Sting
Frost I know you play SV……do you have a macro (or 2, or 3, or 4…..) built for your shot cycle incorporating Black Arrow, Serpent Sting, Explosive Shot, Steady Shot and Aimed (or Multi) shot????
just curious to see how you set yours up
I have been playing around with mine and I have 1 set up that incorporates serpent sting, black arrow and hunters mark and the other macro I have steady shot, Aimed Shot, Explosive shot and kill command…..I need to incorporate the Use 14, Use 13 and cast rapid fire commands in there as well
I think it is getting to a point where I need to hire a computer programmer to do all this for me…..:-)
No, I do not have a shot cycle macro. The reason is simply that if you’re using a /castsequence macro to manage your cycle, you are doing less dps than you would by doing it manually.
Yeah I have been working on that but managing the whole environment is difficult……but I’m working on it…….A couple of questions….
1) do you use top line numbers, numbers pad or mouse click to fire shots
2) what add-ons do you use (I use quartz for countdown timer)
3) what macros do you use (targeting etc)???
Also is there a way to access the Phoenix option for pet when it dies without having to open up book/go to pet tab and click??? I cant pull it down onto an action bar???
Thanks again for the help
i put phoenix on my pet action bar and have it macro’d into a “pet care” macro
@Selissa RE: Gems -
BM definitely wants AP gems
SV definitely wants Agi gems
MM can go either way. the “best choice” varies on exact gear set up, but on the whole AP vs. Agi is very close – so fudging it for dual spec does not impact much on the MM build.
@quiv RE: mod
if you don’t specify a particular modifier key, the [mod] qualifier will be evaluated as true for any modifier key
[...., mod:alt] onyl evaluates true if you hold down the alt key, but ignores the shift or ctrl key.
For you macro, if you held down the ctrl key as you pressed it, the macro would do nothing, as [nomod] is false, and [mod:alt] is also false — this is useful if you want to add further lines that did other things based on the ctrl key or shift key.
ive been wondering is it possible to make a misdirection macro?
my GM is a war tank and loves md too much, but i was thinking can set up a macro that targets focus cast md then target focuses target?
Myr, I have a couple trinkets that I use strictly for their Use buffs, these I store in my bags, and others that I use for their Equip bonuses. Is there a way using macros for me to trigger the Use buff trinkets and then switch back to my equip trinkets after the buffs have undone; I can’t unequip the trinkets until the buff is over or it cancels them correct? Or is this just bad practice and I should just stick with what I have now.
You cannot use a trinket unless you’re wearing it.
You cannot switch trinkets that you’re wearing while in combat.
What is the % (chance) that one will get the 1000 attack power from the “Mirror of Truth” trinket when equipped (and is there a website that has information on all of the gear blizzard has for warcraft????
thanks
thottbot.com, wowwiki.com, mmo-champion.com, wowhead.com
those are a few of the great sites to check for wow stuff, including gear.
as for MoT, ive always heard it has a 45 second internal CD. i have one and it has a satisfactory proc rate.
Thanks quiv for the sites……I also heard that there is an add-on that gives you info on items….anyone know the name of the add-on??
RatingBuster is a good addon for that, it will tell you how much u gain/lose of any stat change between 2 pieces of gear
@ Eddras RE: MD macro
I use two macros to manage my MD: 1 to set my focus, and the other which MDs to my current focus, or pet — I think these were both posted in comments against the first macro article. here is the important line:
/cast [target=focus,help,nodead][target=pet,exist] Misdirection
@ Huntelarr RE trinket swapping:
Trinket swapping gets a little more complicated than can be easily managed in macros. I use ItemRack and the “events” it defines to look after trinket swaps when I need them… BUT …
right now I don’t have, and there aren’t many, trinkets worth chopping and changing between. The biggest reason for this change in philosophy comes about because we can no longer use FD to swap trinkets mid boss fight.
@David RE: Addons for Gearing:
RatingsBuster is great.
I also use PAWN — which lets you set up distinct weights associated with different stats. The hunter DPS spreadsheet from ElitistJerks even creates the PAWN string fro you build and gear set to import directly into the PAWN add-on in game.
3.1 SV raid: go with wolf or stick with cat/raptor?
its been ages since ive been MM
are all you MM out there noticing that autoshot is your number 1 damager? its like 30+% of my overall damage when im MM and that floored me. seemed off, maybe wild quiver is causing it, idk
Thanks to everybody for all the help – my questions have been answered
Happy Hunting!!!!
Tbh i dont like the macro post SWP and BM. There u had one shot and KC, easy as pie.
But now its so much to fire and keep track of and, for me atleast, its much more fun doing it manualy.
@ willmunny:
Wolf should be a better choise, im still using cat but will change after i saw that my co-hunter in raid did 20k more dmg with his pet.
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