Comments on: Hunter Armor Pen Rating and Armor Pen Cap – Level 80 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/ A gathering place for WoW hunters who have paid their dues Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:46:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mr mehttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-18611 mr me Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:04:15 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-18611 By all this to someone relatively new there is alot of interjecting facts. My armor pen with out gems or needle encruted scorpion is 473..so with the trinket on chance its 1151 would it be worth swapping mark of supremacy for the scorpion. In other words would I see more physical dps using mark of supremacy? Im new it all seems vague! By all this to someone relatively new there is alot of interjecting facts. My armor pen with out gems or needle encruted scorpion is 473..so with the trinket on chance its 1151 would it be worth swapping mark of supremacy for the scorpion. In other words would I see more physical dps using mark of supremacy? Im new it all seems vague!

]]> By: headacheinchttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-17886 headacheinc Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:32:30 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-17886 Someone just tell me what the hell is better, i got kicked out of a raid for gemming arp...and now i'm reading that it's better? Someone just tell me what the hell is better, i got kicked out of a raid for gemming arp…and now i’m reading that it’s better?

]]> By: Falloutnukehttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-17176 Falloutnuke Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:32:32 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-17176 Just making sure here (lots of Comments that fight eachother on info) Agi beats ArP for lower gears for sure. BUT if you are able to reach 800 ArP passive, you should stack ArP gems because it becomes better than AGI. dps wise. <--- MM hunter Just making sure here (lots of Comments that fight eachother on info) Agi beats ArP for lower gears for sure. BUT if you are able to reach 800 ArP passive, you should stack ArP gems because it becomes better than AGI. dps wise. <— MM hunter

]]> By: Rokamihttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-16469 Rokami Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:06:54 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-16469 So I have a question. Say you have 100% (1400) ARP, would that reduce the boss's armor to 0 and thus reduce his damage reduction to 0 as well? I'm a bit lost on this, but if I'm doing my math correctly would that not mean a 41.13% increase in dps or am I off on my math? So I have a question.
Say you have 100% (1400) ARP, would that reduce the boss’s armor to 0 and thus reduce his damage reduction to 0 as well? I’m a bit lost on this, but if I’m doing my math correctly would that not mean a 41.13% increase in dps or am I off on my math?

]]> By: Sunnyhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-16276 Sunny Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:05:12 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-16276 Hi all, been a avid reader here :) and I am so lost on the arm pen :0 Seems that so many numbers vary for when you should stack/drop Arcane Shot. I recently downloaded rawr, and after optiomizing today, it was telling me that my dps would be around 7202 with gemming arm pen. I am currently around 694 and cannot get the FoS trinket to save my soul! lol. If anyone has any advice for me, it would be greatly appreciated!! http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&cn=Sunnarissa Hi all, been a avid reader here :) and I am so lost on the arm pen :0 Seems that so many numbers vary for when you should stack/drop Arcane Shot. I recently downloaded rawr, and after optiomizing today, it was telling me that my dps would be around 7202 with gemming arm pen. I am currently around 694 and cannot get the FoS trinket to save my soul! lol. If anyone has any advice for me, it would be greatly appreciated!!
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&cn=Sunnarissa

]]> By: BoBbyhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-15930 BoBby Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:23:32 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-15930 SO I am right in saying that any ArP stat that is applied to a boss decreases its armour which in turn helps us in increasing our dps, however does not help us in lowering our ArP cap? Thats what seems to be suggested. SO I am right in saying that any ArP stat that is applied to a boss decreases its armour which in turn helps us in increasing our dps, however does not help us in lowering our ArP cap?

Thats what seems to be suggested.

]]> By: Stokeslyhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-15834 Stokesly Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:22:03 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-15834 Here is the idea. If youre a BM or a Survival hunter this thread is useless for you. If youre a MM hunter ArP whill affect youre Auto Shot, Steady Shot, Chimera Shot and Kill Shot Gemming for ArP becomes usefull after u reached 600 ArP since of that moment every point of ArP will give more of a dps increase then 1 agi. Also you will notice that after you get about 800 arp you should stop using Arcane Shot since Steady Shot does more damage. Only use arcane shot when youre forced to move and have no other instant shots. Keep to this rules and you should be able to get some nice dps Here is the idea.
If youre a BM or a Survival hunter this thread is useless for you.

If youre a MM hunter ArP whill affect youre Auto Shot, Steady Shot, Chimera Shot and Kill Shot
Gemming for ArP becomes usefull after u reached 600 ArP since of that moment every point of ArP will give more of a dps increase then 1 agi.
Also you will notice that after you get about 800 arp you should stop using Arcane Shot since Steady Shot does more damage. Only use arcane shot when youre forced to move and have no other instant shots.

Keep to this rules and you should be able to get some nice dps

]]> By: baganhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-15189 bagan Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:15:26 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-15189 This forum has been a gr8 help to me. l always socket arp gems but try to keep socket bonus as much as posible. agi/crit or arp/stam gems i feel this gives me better dps, Good hunting guys n girls and always enjoy yourself:) This forum has been a gr8 help to me. l always socket arp gems but try to keep socket bonus as much as posible. agi/crit or arp/stam gems i feel this gives me better dps, Good hunting guys n girls and always enjoy yourself:)

]]> By: Kayoshttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-15002 Kayos Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:50:41 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-15002 Hi i was wondering what to buy next from the frost vendor im hopeing for gloves to drop in voa so i can get 4 t10 if there is something ells let me know plz atm stuck on 535 arp :I http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&cn=Oshie Hi i was wondering what to buy next from the frost vendor im hopeing for gloves to drop in voa so i can get 4 t10 if there is something ells let me know plz atm stuck on 535 arp :I
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&cn=Oshie

]]> By: Anvilomallyhttp://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/01/hunter-armor-pen-rating-how-it-works-at-level-80/#comment-14602 Anvilomally Thu, 20 May 2010 16:11:22 +0000 http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/?p=658#comment-14602 Was wondering if anyone had tested for a point between the soft caps for the trinkets and the hard cap of 1400 where it's actually more beneficial to replace the trinket? My thinking being that at some point a high (75%+), constant armor reduction on a boss would average out to be better than ~50% armor reduction a majority of the battle with little spurts of up to 100% armor reduction. Was wondering if anyone had tested for a point between the soft caps for the trinkets and the hard cap of 1400 where it’s actually more beneficial to replace the trinket? My thinking being that at some point a high (75%+), constant armor reduction on a boss would average out to be better than ~50% armor reduction a majority of the battle with little spurts of up to 100% armor reduction.

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